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Crystal Robinson was rescued from flooded rural roads near Lincoln by a Good Samaritan on December 20, 2010.

Crystal Robinson was rescued from flooded rural roads near Lincoln by a Good Samaritan on December 20, 2010.

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LINCOLN, Calif. (CBS13) –- Emergency dispatchers transferred a frantic woman’s call from one dispatch center to another after she called 911 when rushing waters carried her car down a flooded roadway last week, audio recordings reveal.

Crystal Robinson said she didn’t immediately panic when a wave of water surged around her car on December 20th, but her concern quickly turned to fear after dispatchers transferred her call twice and nearly transferred her to the wrong dispatch center.

Robinson was first connected to the California Highway Patrol dispatch in Chico, who transferred the call to Rancho Cordova.

“You’re on Wise Road and Dowd?” the dispatcher asked.

“Yes, I am,” Crystal said.

“One moment,” the dispatcher said, putting her on hold.

After a moment of silence, Crystal can be heard on the recording, saying, “Oh my God, this isn’t happening to me.”

The dispatcher started to route her call to the Grass Valley Fire Department, but while her car continued to float down the road, filling with water, dispatchers transferred her instead to Cal Fire’s Grass Valley dispatch center.

With Crystal finally talking to the right rescuers, fire crews scrambled to find her outside Lincoln. By the time they arrived, a Good Samaritan, Curtis Lee, had towed her car out of the flood waters.

Crystal says she waited 30 minutes for the first rescuers to arrive on scene, but computer records indicate otherwise. CHP call logs show Crystal’s 911 call first coming in at 6:03pm and CAL FIRE’s truck arriving 14 minutes later. But, it took more than 2 ½ minutes to get the call routed to the right dispatch center.

Despite significant improvements in 911 response times, CHP Assistant Chief Michael Champion said the technology still needs many upgrades. The heavy rains and troubled roadways that night also stretched emergency crews thin.

“The signal bounced off the tower that goes to Chico dispatch and that’s why the call went there,” Champion said. “I really didn’t see any problem with that. I thought that was quite appropriate, given the circumstances.”

Robinson disagrees and says the experience was terrifying.

“It was not treated right. I didn’t panic fully until I made the 911 call,” she said.

The CHP says technology is available to track cell phone calls by longitude and latitude, but it could be years before all California dispatch centers have that capability.

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  • URFULOFIT

    I thought they were routing all calls to the PD or sheriff with jurisdiction a few years ago. They said they had the technology to only route calls coming from the area of a FREEWAY to CHP. Boy, wasn’t THAT a lot of BS? CHP STILL takes all of them, and I’ve had two horrible experiences with 911 from a cell.

  • rant

    This type of thing happens to CHP every day, several times a day. CHP Sacramento Valley Division Center for example, has to deal with routing calls to several jurisdictions in several counties. This is not a perfect process.

    Dispatchers having to quickly process calls that CHP does NOT deal with is just one of the issues. Mapping programs and geographic databases could be another factor.

    Another issue is the information given to the dispatcher. Run Wise rd and Dowd rd on Google maps – the return is N Dowd Rd & W Wise Rd.
    Some mapping programs will produce false returns or variations which need to be narrowed down by interviewing the caller further. Not all 911 callers know where they are exactly. Jurisdication, county, etc

    Cell 911 calls are routed based on several factors; Cell tower configuration, individual cell phone capabilities, and 911 center capabilities, technology and staffing. Not all cell 911 calls route to CHP, some will route to local police/sheriff dispatch centers. One has to fully understand the technological and staffing requirements for routing of cell 911 calls.

    In Sacramento, there are several 911 centers. Sac Sheriff, Sac PD, Citrus Heights PD, Elk Grove PD, Folsom PD, Galt PD, Sac Regional Fire and CHP are all 911 centers inside Sacramento County. Depending on where you are, which tower your cell connects to will determine where your cell phone routes your 911 cell call.

    Many stories have been covered by the media regarding cell 911 routing, specifically Sac Sheriff and CHP Sacramento. Money, technology and staffing – continues to be the major stumbling block.

    My question is – This story says the call was transfered to Rancho Cordova. Rancho Cordova what? Police (shouldn’t have) Rancho Cordova CHP Office? (shouldn’t have) Sac Regional Fire in Rancho Cordova? (shouldn’t have). Obviously the call should have been transfered to the appropriate Fire Department for a water rescue.

    CHP needs to get out of the 911 routing business.

  • Jack

    You never, ever, EVER rely on the police for your safety. LEARN THIS LESSON PEOPLE, it might save your life some day. Sorry, that’s just the way it is.

  • Some 911 Dispatcher

    Thanks for the post. I was just about to post something similar. It’s funny the things people don’t understand yet feel so inclined to comment on.

  • John

    Wow. Yet another article trying to highlight the negative side of law enforcement. What about the hundred, or even thousands of lives that have been save by the quick response/actions by dispatchers and responding officers, firefighters, etc.??? Nope, lets make sure we focus on the negatives. Thank you media for another great article. When does it stop??

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m sorry that this poor woman had to go through this, but why don’t we stop being so quick to blame. Thankfully she even had a cellphone, and that rescuer eventually did show up. And how about praising the good samaritan who came to her rescue, instead of highlighting the negatives.

  • Another 911 Dispatcher

    As was I…above is exactly how it is…believe me, I deal with this hundreds of times daily (and no I don’t work for CHP)

  • Wayne

    She”s to blame for getting herself into that situation!

  • MaryMargaret

    What about personal responsibility? How about not driving through flooded areas and possibly getting yourself into such trouble? People who do dumb things shouldn’t rely on others to get them out of life threatening situations they caused by their own extremely poor judgment, and then complain when the Calvary doesn’t come fast enough.

  • randy

    driving across a flooded road…….no common sense……. and now it is somebody elses fault ……….foolish woman

  • intheknow

    Most people do not know that the main CHP 911 center in this area is in Rancho Cordova of Sunrise and White Rock road. Apparently “Rant” didn’t do his homework. I know because I was involved in building the center.

  • K

    So why when I called the one time, could they not find me? I gave my full address to the operator, and the development I live in has been around for 5 years so it is in the system. I just thank god the problem fixed it’s self that day, because 20 minutes later they still could not find me.

  • Nosy

    Wow, thanks for that. A bunch of us cut class and missed that chapter. So glad that the wizard of oz issued you your certificate. And thanks ever so much for being so self pontificating about it too.

  • Nosy

    Yeah, apparently Rant didn’t work on the tower too. I can tell that you designed it too, you pulitzer prize winning person you. Come here and give me a hug. And get your only tooth out of your back pocket and back in your mouth, because you leave bite marks every time you sit down.

  • Nosy

    Its even more funny that just because we don’t know how the system is setup, our tax dollars pay you to assist us in time of need “EVERY” time. Unfortunately, you get to put the blame on the system if a mistake is made or if you get angry cuz we are in a state of panic and using loud or profane language. It’s really funny that you can sit there and dish on us because we pay you.

  • Pat Hamer

    First of all, people are unaware that CHP are immune from negligence or even corruption for that matter by the 11th amendment to the Constitution. I know that sounds contradictory to the bill of rights, but the 11th amendment bars the bill of rights because it bars “redress of grievance” against officials, see Bogan v. Scott Harris, in fact Scotus states, “we will not tolerate a citizen redressing a grievance against even corrupt officials.” So, the CHP do not have to act to protect citizens from danger. See Gonzales v. Castle Rock! It says there is no constitutional right for “police protection, not even from madmen or murderers.” So quit complaining about near death experiences. You voted these people in, and nobody has demanded that the 11th amendment be removed! It is not as important as our desire to get intoxicated with good booze! I’m sure you are all aware of that amendment called prohibition, and its removal! The next time you vote, if you vote D or R, you vote for those who know they are constitutionally protected from negligence. What does a human do, when there are no restraints for wrong doing? The next time you vote for measures that require tax dollars, know that they do not have to spend your money wisely. Know that they can even manipulate the law to resemble theft, but not be theft and you can’t do nothing about it! Welcome to democracy! You voted for it but didn’t get it! Try reading a law book for a change!

  • Snarky

    I’m just impressed that she was able to get an operator on the line. The few times that I have had to call 911, I have received a busy ignal and/or a recording that informs me that all lines are busy and I should try my call again. Governmental effectiveness at its finest.

    And, yes, all her own dang fault. If you lack the common sense to make reasonable decissions while driving, don’t drive, idiot.

  • Jonathan Robinson

    You should really learn how things happened before your so quick to judge. This is her brother and first there were no flood signs put up until after this happened, and a semi drove by and hit her with a wave of water that pushed her into the flooded area. People who do dumb things are people who post comments on the internet without knowing the facts

  • Jonathan Robinson

    You should really learn how things happened before your so quick to judge. This is her brother and first there were no flood signs put up until after this happened, and a semi drove by and hit her with a wave of water that pushed her into the flooded area. foolish People are people who post comments on the internet without knowing the facts

  • Elspeth

    I always have the number for EMERGENCY dispatch and non-emergency dispatch for the local police and fire (both city and county) programed into my cell phone and call them directly when not on the freeway. You completely bypass the CHP dispatch center and it resolves a lot of trouble. The only drawback is that you have to know what jurisdiction you are in, SPD, CHPD, SMFD, SFD, SSD, PSD, YSD, WSPD, FPD, FFD, etc. You gotta pay attention

  • Elspeth

    The report does not say she entered a flooded road…”rushing water” There were FLASH floods in several foothill areas last week.

  • wilson

    What its her fault weather happened?? Your a idiot. Its weather…… nothing anyone can help.

  • Rant

    You missed the part where I addressed the Rancho Cordova CHP office. I know exactly where it’s located.

  • Rant

    Nosy – I never solely blamed they system, equipment or process – I just offered some possibilities. There are MANY times it’s simply 911 dispatcher error.

    K – There could be a huge range of reasons ‘they’ could not find you. Mapping program error, lack of udpated mapping program, dispatcher error, confusing streets (duplicated or similar addresses). It’s important that your address is known and correct to local public safety. I strongly suggest that you contact a dispatch supervisor to ensure that your address is correctly geo-validated

  • brownkow

    Um..it’s Cavalry, not Calvary…duh.

  • Rant

    InTheKnow – I know exactly how the CHP 911 center operates, their jurisdiction and processes. No, I don’t work for CHP. There is no ‘main’ CHP 911 center – The Rancho office is just one of many with an area of responsibility. When the lady called from the Lincoln location, the tower connected her to the CHP Chico Dispatch center which covers portions of the Yuba/Sutter/Placer area. The issue is where CHP transfered the caller. That could be a dispatcher error, poor policy or poor judgement.

  • Crystal Robinson

    If you lack the common sense to realize that the news only shows PIECES of an interview and not the ENTIRE thing then we have an entirely other issue. THere was no flood when I came down the road. I was waiting on a semi on a one way pass! When he went by he broke a man made levee on the side of the road and I was swept away!! When I called 911 and was transferred to that last fire station, all they told me was CHP made a bad transfer and it wasn’t their problem. Calling for help and being told those SUPPOSED to help you just passed you off….. it’s a bit frustrating when you are sruck in a situation like that.

  • concerned

    These people are sociopaths, Crystal! They have no empathy for victims. He would have toasted your death as deserving, and would have cared less about facts. I am almost convinced the majority of voters fall in this category. That is why we are all in a bad state.

    If you notice there are those who defend official negligence very patriotic and with heartfelt passion. Now think back in time! Hitler counted on this type of personality to put him in rule of his Germany! “Common Sense” is his superior race. If he perceives lack of common sense in people, their death or demise is Darwin’s Natural Selection, and he is happy about that. This is basic barbarianism. I’m glad you made it!

  • Crystal Robinson

    I am aware of that, and thankful for it. I needed to point out that there was no: “driving into a flooded roadway,” There is usually always more to a story than what you first hear.

    According to CHP the operator that handled my call was new, and if that is the case then someone should have been making sure that the calls were handled properly. I had to repeat my information with EACH transfer, where I was what had happened, ALL of it. If I had lost the call or dropped my phone in the water, then no one would have known where I was or to come help me. I am just thankful that I recieved the help that I did recieve, and am still trying to find the good samaritan that pulled me out.

    Thank you…

  • concerned

    so many story’s turn to tragedy, and those officers and officials escape scrutiny, and in fact the court dockets are filled with cases favorable to plaintiffs that show officials will cover up, if they can, their negligence. Look at Mr. Chris Liu whose home was raided for whistle blowing. This happened to me also. Perhaps the police were intimidating Mr. Liu at his home. The news video showed quite a few officers there, and there was no life threatening situation, only allegations that affect the performance of an official.
    It’s a shame! We have created a monster through citizen inaction.

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  • inthe know

    Apparently your an idiot and you think you are clever (Nosy}.
    I have no control over the employees that are hired and trained. The facility was the state of the art when built. You can blame the state budget for not being able to do updates.

  • Godwin

    “Hitler counted on this type of personality to put him in rule of his Germany!”

    Godwin’s Law= you lose.

  • C

    When you look at it a call to 911 was made for a car that was swept away by water. No harm no foul on anyone BUT 911 is an EMERGENCY line that should be used for life or limb situations. If your car needs to be pulled out of the water call a tow truck!

  • Crystal Robinson

    Did you miss the part where it was swept away with ME IN IT?!?!? I was floating down the road, and my car was filling with water. My doors wouldn’t open because of the water…. if I had been pushed any more to the side, I would have flipped in a ditch. How is that not a life or limb situation? This was not standing water. Let’s put you in that situation…..

  • MsAttitude

    My family is from CA but for now we live in OK.

    Here, you cannot call Animal Control, the Sheriff’s Department, any Detective (I was involved in a case against a 30 year old man who sought out, and raped a 15 year old girl, a friend, who was released from the hospital he worked at), or any other place like this without calling 911 first and telling them “This is a non-emergency, I need blah blah department.”

    It is absolutely ridiculous.

  • fhfwolfy

    Highlighting the negative often serves a greater purpose than cheering the positive. The military strives to highlight the negatives of each operation, each convoy, each training exercise in order to learn from the mistakes made. Maybe the 911 community should learn from that.

  • Dianne Smith

    Thanks to goodness the woman is fine and there is a Good Samaritan who offers help. When an emergency occurs, it is vital that someone calls 911. Based on my experienced calling 911, it is important to stay calm, listen, and answer while the dispatchers ask basic information about the emergency. This would help the dispatcher determine the appropriate assistance that might need to be sent to the emergency location. For an emergency help and for my family protection, I registered to a safety program that has a direct access to 911. It is a mobile security application that has one-click emergency access to family, friends, and police. his service also can locate a person by lat and long and is integrated with the local emergency services. For quick emergency response, you can check out http://SafeTREC.com/

  • Denise Richardson

    That’s why I have the direct numbers for Sac PD and Fire department, both emergency, and non-emergency, programmed in to my cell phone.

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