SHOULD BE TRIED AS AN ADULT

Anyone ever think that maybe she didnt kill the baby that is might have been stillborn or died shortly after being born the baby was 3 months premature….

What she did was atrocious and punishable by law. If she did not want to keep the child, she could have had the baby killed by a professional and disposed of as medical waste via abortion. It is ironic how today’s society has made murder acceptable as long as the rules are followed.

She had the chance to take the child to a Hosptial she made the wrong decision by not doing so.

THIS IS SO HORRIBLE!!!!! I BLAME THE PARENTS.

I agree with you, its a shame she chose this route as oppose to talking to her parents.

Wow youngmamaov4, your naivaty as well as immaturity, is reflected in your words. Can we ask the question on why the parents didnt know? Or maybe you can answer since you seem to have all the answers.

I totally agree. Teenagers should be made to feel comfortable talking to their parents about things like this. She’s old enough though to take responsibility for her horrible decisions, and I hope she’s taught a real lesson.

Abortions don’t kill humans, they remove a clump of cells growing that have yet to form anything, as long as performed early enough in pregnancy. There is a big difference between having an abortion, and doing what she did!

Wow harsh. I was lucky at 17 to be able to tell my parents i was with child. Can not imagine being in her situation. They will probably give her 25+ years. What a waste of 2 lives.

How did they catch her?

“Teenagers should be made to feel comfortable talking to their parents about things like this.”

What a contradiction. Made to feel comfortable? Were you ever a teenager? Do you remember it? My parents were the last people I wanted to talk to, especially about things of a sexual nature.

deborah.get a clue. most people who give birth to a stillborn child do not find burying it in a hole in their back yard the most obvious choice. the fact that you want to make an excuse and/or see nothing wrong with it-well more of whats wrong with this country. explain your “rationale” to the poor kid in the hole. oh wait,thats right,you can’t. do you get it now?

abortions don’t kill humans – for all we know it could be dolphins growing inside the womb – we don’t know until something is born what life form it will be

All of us are clumps of living cells. Dead cells do not grow only living cells do, hence the “clump” is alive. Removal from the mother’s womb does not constitute life.

I can’t believe you would say something like that. The heart starts beating at 6 weeks and most of the time this is before any women knows they are expecting. I think this is a shame the stupid young girls and boys think they can play but don’t have to pay for the consequences. Keep your pants up and your legs crossed if you are not ready for what could happen when you are irresponsible. That is why we have birth control and it should not be all left up to the girl to insure that things like this don’t happen!!

Hard to compare abortion and this story in the same breathe. The young girl was probably out of her mind with fear and didn’t think past lunch on her decision. What would you do?

I would imagine that this young lady is going to live with more shame and guilt then the grand State of California can enforce on her.

Hard to believe that there was not one person in the young ladies life that she could go to and say “hey, got any suggestions?”

I agree. Youngmama made a very stupid comment. The parents didn’t even know she was pregnant. That girl was old enough to spread her legs, old enough to know what murder is, old enough to know how to call 911 if the baby had complications and old enough to know people adopt unwanted children. She is to blame and only herself. I hope she gets a long long time in prison. RIP little angel who never got a chance.

Did you not read the whole story? Granted, very little info on this story but, it did say the cops said she killed her baby. Did you ever think to re-read it just in case you missed something?

I CANT ANWSER THAT QUESTION ON HOW HER PARENTS DIDNT NO, AS A MOTHER HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW UR DAUGHTER IS 6 MONTHS PREGNANT AND GIVING BIRTH IN THE NEXT ROOM.

If people would stop acting like sex is the sin of all sins, she would have likely been able to talk to her parents about sex and protection. Then she wouldn’t have been in this situation. My son is 15 y/o and he recently asked me about condoms and the differences in the brands and how old do you have to be to purchase them. I told him, what he needed to know but made it clear that I would have no problems buying them for him when he’s ready. I would buy a box of a hundred if I had to. I am a single mother, his father was killed in a motorcycle accident. I am greatful of our relationship. He can come to me for anything.

it very easy and quite COMMON for parents of a teenage girl to not know their daughter is expecting. When I was a teenager my best friend was IN LABOR before when her parents’ found out she was pregnant……and they had FOUR sets of eyes looking at her daily!!! Big sweat shirts and baggy pants do wonders my friend!

I AGREE W SHANNON, THATS Y I BLAME THE PARENTS.

@ NEW ENGLANDER/ BUT LIKE I SAID AS PARENTS WE ALL NO THOSE R THE SIGNS, WHEN UR DAUGHTER ALL OF A SUDDEN STARTS WEARIN BAGGY SHIRTS AND SWEATERS EVEN NO ITS HOT OUTSIDE. AS WOMEN PERIOD, WE NO THE SYMPTOMS AND SIGNS OF PREGNANCY.

well, in reading the story it doesn’t state when this happened……and as an outsider we don’t know what type of clothing she prefers, nor is clothing choice a symptom of pregnancy. It is very easy for those uninvolved to say “How could her parents not know?”, but I’m telling you it’s easy for a teenager to hide things and lie…..and any parent that has or has had one will tell you the same no matter how “close” your relationship is with them I can guarantee you they have lied to you about one thing or another. None of us know this girl’s home life or her parents, so don’t be so quick to jump to judgement of them. SHE did what she did, not them. Reguardless of anything else SHE made the choice, not her parents. We aren’t speaking about a toddler or a five year old that doesn’t fully understand right and wrong, she is 17 (or maybe 16 at the time) so she should take responsibility for the choice she made. One that I’m sure she wishes she could take back now

There were many directions she could of went towards. I do not want to hear this bull, she was scared, and she is young. There is no excuse.

Khandi, you can’t know what was in her mind. You can’t know the dynamics of her family. Some people are more comfortable with their kids watching extremely violent movies but the minute a love scene comes their running the kids out of the room. Its the natural order of things its bound to happen so why not have the discussion about safe sex. Its sad all the way around, you can blame whomever you want. Talk about it. Tell your kids about this article. Its a good way to start the discussion.

Cheryl, get a brain. Someone this girl’s age and who-know’s-what family situation was probably scared half out of her mind if the baby was stillborn. In her frightened and immature mind she probably thought what she did was best for all. BTW, what do we do with people when they pass away? For all YOU know, she may have provided a loving, though misguided, burial in her own best way. I’m sick of all you narrow-minded judgmental people who only have a smidgin of facts when you become 17th Century witch hunters.

Did you read? There hasn’t even been an autopsy yet. Unless there is a proverbial ‘smoking gun’ on the baby, they do not know how the child died. It may be based on pre-emption or guilty comments. Point is, YOU DON’T KNOW.

The parents may not have been told because of their anticipated reaction. As for adoption, poole, how many anti-s have actually adopted? Not to many, too busy screaming at and judging everyone else. When the zealots start caring for all those babies, then they will have crediblity.

How awful! I wonder how the authorities found out about it in the first place. Did someone come across the poor buried baby somehow? DId an animal dig it up? Did the teenage mother who buried her baby confess to someone? I am curious as to how the whole thing was discovered. I can take a guess, but it’s just a guess: I think she told someone and they went to the place and unearthed the innocent baby and then called the authorities. Anyone have the inside scoop?

Wow, it’s wonderful that so many people can presume that the only way that women and girls get pregnant is by “spreading their legs and playing.” I’d love to live in this wonderful world where women and girls only have sexual contact when they freely consent to do so.

Gee, maybe she didn’t tell her parents because dad’s the father and mom’s murderously jealous. Just sayin’ .

Jennifer … I so agree with u TEENAGERS SHOULD BE MADE COMFORTABLE TALKING TO THEIR PARENTS ….
@LoveMeOrElse … it’s a shame that ur parents didn’t give u that comfort growing up. Hate to know what u would have had to do if faced with this situation as a teen. Regardless of what she felt her parents would have done she should have told them. She will get what is coming to her. Every1 that is trying to justify what she did … u need some help … SERIOUSLY!

Get ready to read stories like this every week if they outlaw abortion.

Not sure of your age, but that will never happen. And its not about “outlawing abortion” that would cause more of these incidents. Why, because its easy and safe for women/female girls & guys to get the protection they need to avoid this all together. This tragedy happens because parents don’t want to accept the fact that their daughter/son will engage in sex. Therefore, they won’t comminucate with their teen about safety and they (the parents) make their teens feel like sex is so taboo, that they (the teens) take stupid chances. If parents accepted this as a fact of life, that they (the teens) will likely engage in sex, then the sons would ask their parents to help with the purchase of condoms and the daughters would ask for help in getting birthcontrol. There you have it, no pregnancies no issues like this. If you can’t ask your parents for help in getting something to aide in prevention, then you’re certainly not going to tell your parents you’re pregnant. The sad part about this as well is, the girls are the ones facing scrutiny, the name calling, the jail time, the responsibilities, and feeling alone. The guys, they get to go on with their lives to do whatever they want. There is no shroud hovering over them that a baby is on the way at their tender age. If a girl gets pregnant, and she’s 8 months, you know she’s pregnant, but at that 8 month point, no one can look at a guy and point the awful finger, that he’s got a baby on the way. I so want girls to understand and protect themselves from that kind of humilitation. But ladies out there with daughters, you’ve got to help them. Please step up to the plate. Let them know you’re there for them. Do that, and they (the girls) will never feel alone and without hope.

I totally agree. Teenagers should be made to feel comfortable talking to their parents about things like this.

She’s 17 you giant mass of morons. You can hop off your high horse when one of your own teenage family members does something stupid. I taught mine the best I can, will it keep them from panicking, acting their age, doing something stupid? Of course not, thats wishful thinking. We as parents teach them to be afraid to admit they didn’t listen. WE DO, get a clue…

Cynthia you are the idiot. A stupid waste of space. That baby did not deserve what happened to her. I don’t give a damn what the mother’s family life was like or what was going on. She needed to stand up and take responsibility for what had happened. Her first thought should of been to find help for the baby, not bury it like it was trash. Of course people like you that show they only have a few brain cells, can’t grasp that. Narrow minded? No! I just have common sense, something you certainly do not have. I really hope you never have kids. And if you do i really feel sorry for them to have you as their mother.

Youngmama, it is possible to carry a pregnancy to term without anyone knowing. It is, just deal with it.

Try her as an adult! She made sveral adult decisions so her punishment should be the same. And let’s please seal up her tubes so she can’t get pregnant again. Anyone that hurts a child should be sterilized.

Wow, Vanessa. I feel sorry if you have kids… so full of hatred.

Guest- are you serious? Really? What 17 year old is comfortable talking to their parents about such things? Unless they’ve been coodled (in which case they’ll probably be at home until 30).

Also… might want to look into taking an english class or two. Use your words. They help you to not look so ridiculous.

She should be tried as an adult. Getting an abortion is one thing but having the baby then killing it is very sadistic. She knew she was pregnant and could have gotten help for an abortion. I understand her pain of not being able to tell her parents of the pregnancy but she needed to take responsibility in her actions so she could get help.

You are a miserable woman.

Lisa, I agree that teenagers are prone to doing stupid things that we as experienced people look at or hear of and say to ourselves “What were they thinking??”. However she didn’t run a stop light, break curfew, sneak out of the house, or go somewhere she was told not to. She killed a baby. She took the life of her own child. While teenagers don’t have the experience or life wisdom that adults do, they know that killing another human being is wrong! When it’s the person’s own child it takes on a whole new level. I’m sure in hind sight she is wishing with all of her power that she would have made a different choice, but that fact is she didn’t and her child is dead by her own hand.

While I think the sentiment could be put a little more eloquently, I agree. And those that are saying otherwise are misguided and too worried over someone that had choices but chose the “easy way” out.

This young lady chose to have sex and she got pregnant. Then she chose to hide her pregnancy. Then she chose to have the baby alone. Afterward, she chose to bury her newborn baby in a grave in her back yard. Where was her kindness? Where was her concern over the baby’s childhood (or lack thereof)? Where was her compassion for her fellow man (or baby as it were)? Where was her head? She wasn’t thinking of anyone but how the child affected HER LIFE. There are so many different options she could have taken advantage of but didn’t. I have no sympathy for her in the least. All the different forks in the road she had and not once did she put anything above herself. I’m so tired of children being dismissed for their actions because they are children. They must be held accountable. Everyone needs to start being held accountable for their own decisions. We are creating a whole society where one hint of “bad childhood” or “mental abuse” can excuse anything from more abuse to murder. Some people do have a tough life and get a tough break… but if we excuse everyone for their actions because of that we might as well just throw the law books away and operate on the “Wild West” rules again.

Hey Cynthia! NIETHER DO YOU!!! If the police are saying she killed it (and even YOU are saying it’s based on guilty statements) she more than likely TOLD THEM SHE DID IT!!! And btw, it doesnt matter if it were stillborn and she burried it on her own…..there are still laws in reguard to how a body is treated after death, that is why we have coroners and morticians.

I, honestly, don’t care if it was still born. She buried a baby in her back yard to cover it up. In her mind she was only concerned for herself. It is possible it was stillborn or died shortly after but didn’t you ever think that had she done the right thing and told someone about the pregnancy and gotten the proper medical care that it wouldn’t have been? Or if she died shortly after birth maybe if this young lady delivered in a hospital the baby would have gotten the immediate attention and care it needed? Who cares if she was scared? Motherhood in general is scary for anyone. Does that mean that murder is okay? By not getting the proper medical attention and/or doing everything possible to save this baby, she made the choice to allow her child to die. She seemed to want that all along anyway since she buried it. I know of NO MOTHER that wants her child that would just bury the baby. Most would want a service. A burial. A tombstone. Something. Some way to pay their respects and deal with their grief. Not this “mother”. She wanted to bury her little secret and move on with her life as though it didn’t happen.

Ron … yes it is a shame that most 17 year old kids don’t feel comfortable and can’t talk to their parents. Guess what it’s how you raise your children and what you teach your children. I thank God that I and my sibilings had an open household and were taught to TRUST our parents and that we could talk to them about anything … including SEX! Guess what … I was not coodled … I was moved out of my parents house by the age of 17, had my own place, worked a full time job, paid my OWN bills and went to school. So yes a teenager the age of 17 should be made to feel comfortable to confide in their parents. I have teenagers of my own now and they talk to me about everything b/c I have taught them that I am the one they can trust. Granted teens will do things that parents don’t know … that is in their nature, but I can say for the most part I know pretty much what my kids do … they don’t feel they have to lie to me to go out and even have sex!
B.T.W … I do know how to use words .. I am highly educated speaking 3 fluent languages … just b/c a person doesn’t use ALL the words doesn’t make them look ridiculous … it’s how a lot of ppl type now!

i agreee i had a baby 8weeks early and he came out 3lb 12oz , it is possible she reacted as a little minded child as the baby was born early and maybe dead. which does not excuess what she ehas dun, but does not derserve to sit in jail for 25 years, some time is derserved and tie her tubes.

Omgosh she’s just a girl she was scared

wow i think she should pay for what she did. she opened her legs and got herself knocked up theres so many people she could of went to that could of got her the help she needed and she decide not to so now there’s a dead baby man i could never in a million years do that she knows it was wrong and she should spend the rest of her life behind bars!

wow i think she should pay for what she did. she opened her legs and got herself knocked up theres so many people she could of went to that could of got her the help she needed and she decide not to so now there’s a dead baby man i could never in a million years do that she knows it was wrong and she should spend the rest of her life behind bars!!!!!!.!!!!!

You people are all insane and need better things to do with your time.
Your all probably the 65 and over retired consertives that have nothing better
to do then sit at an abortion clinic or wait for your social security check to come
in the mail.Go changes your depends or play some bingo or something….

Agree 100%

Human life has become so cheap, murders happens daily from babies to the elderly no one is protected anymore. People are more concerned with an animlas life or their personal freedoms than even concern themselves with a living breathing baby.
The inmates are taking over this state! and the legislation and governor are just riding along not even paying attention to thie cruelty since it doesn’t affect them!