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Let the spoiled brat students pay for their own education. The taxpayers fund already fund it through high school. Crybaby athlete’s, if you want to work out go join a gym. Money is tight, go to school to get an education, the sports programs should all be eliminated until the state is out of debt.

Wow that is a harsh thing to say. Wait until your precious job is put on the budget block. Maybe you shouldn’t speak about something you don’t know about.

It’s not harsh, Stephanie. It’s reality. If there is a finite amount of money, what is more important? Funding your education or funding a sports program? As for me, I think most sports programs should be eliminated even in high schools and students should focus on learning………..only!!

these kids are spoiled brats.

A pox on all their houses. Both administration and athletics are way over-funded in universities.

I agree Paul. Well said.

Stephanie, while I appreciate your concern and sympathy, losing your job is not the same as losing you ability to compete in organized sports. The job provides an income to pay for bills while college swimming does not. We cannot compare the devastation realized when money is no longer available, not to mention the worry and anxiety, to the inconvenience one experiences when their extra-curricular activity is cancelled.

It sounds like these people are preparing to enter the ranks of the Unions. Typical ‘worker’ philosophy, protest and sue organizations when you don’t like their completely legal decisions. Post graduation, when they get jobs and the company has a layoff due to money issues, they will sue the company demanding they keeps their jobs because it’s their fault the company did not better protect or invest their money. Yep, sounds like the union.

Job on the chopping block??? been there….so what…I went out and got another job. Stop whining .

Exactly Chris….some people (Liberals) think the world owes them a living…why its their right! rubbish. No one owes anyone a living…go out and work and take responsibility for yourself. Stop expecting others to give you stuff.

The school made a deal with these students. Thats fine to cut the sports due to cost and they will save, but they should honor the scholarships with tuition and housing (if its a full scholarship) so they can finish school.

I find it interesting that these California schools wanted illegals to go for instate that they cannot afford and now want to cut their real obligation at this time…. fascinating….

Soirry Stephanie, there should never be any sports in any school. That should be handled by the parks department of the local community. School is to get an education, hopefully a good one. When people get as excited about the winning a scholastic bowl as winning a football game, then we are truly getting a good education.

every expenditure should be listed and placed in an easy to access area (online, in our libraries etc). the days of college administrators making $300K to $400K is inexcusable ….

Student athletes are not workers. They’re students. They’re not losing any “jobs”. What sort of mind equates the two?

Obviously these student think college is about them. Don’t they know it’s for the benefit of the Professors and Administrators. Just because their parents, and they themselves, are the source of the taxes used to run the school, they are foolish enough to think they have some say in how that money is spent. Absolutely ridiculous!!

It’s time they learned that, until they become part of the Elite, they are less than nothing, and their wishes, concerns, or contractual obligations are less than the bleating of goats. Next thing you know, the dogs and cats will be demanding a say in the treatment they get at the vets.

Jason, the agreement was not contractual is was conditional. You play sports, maintain other qualifications and we will give you money. No sports to play than no money to pay. If the customers (students) don’t like it than they can go buy their education from someone else. Just like a job. I hire you and tell you I plan on paying you $100k for the next ten years or more. The following year I close that division and with it goes your job. Despite what I said when I hired you, a selling point to make you take the job, it is what it is and your way you must go.

“No sports in school”? Really? Is that the problem? You think being the only nation in the world to remove sports from colleges would make the education better? Do a little research and critical thinking before making broad one sided ASSumptions. Countries that tend not to have sports programs in their universities have broad all inclusinve government funded programs. How do you reckon we handle that bill? I know, why don’t we allow our children and yound adults sink into the wallows of obesity so they can stop paying for your healthcare and start paying for their own.

Poor Randy. He couldn’t get no edumacayshun. Don’t hate, just shutup.

Paul said it all at 6:09 am. Hear! Hear !

As someone who is very much involved with high end travel baseball, this is a trend that is not going to have a happy ending. Clearly smaller colleges are starting to feel the squeeze from dropping enrollment and the economy. It is natural that the sports programs are the first to go. For years families counted on sports scholarships to offset these crazy tuition fees and to get their son or daughter into a better school. That opportunity it quickly vanishing in the small to mid-size schools. And the spots in the larger universities are going to get tighter and tighter. The whole situation is escalating to a fight over just a few spots. It will translate to the high school sports fields where the pressure is being raised every year. I just think people just have to take a break and really think about what is important. Schoolwork, schoolwork, schoolwork…….

Wrong-o. Part of the money the students pay goes toward the new flatscreen computers, fancy phones that no one answers. If I chose a college for my education because it has a good sports program, then I should get what I paid for. you and killerbee32 should stop whining and go buy a brain.

Revenge of the nerds! Sports teach discipline, teamwork, and leadership among other important human qualities. I’d rather see a cut in administrator’s bloated salaries than the loss of wrestling and other sports. Don’t you care about our ability to compete in the Olympics? And you parrots brain washed by the main stream media are fine with the government bailing out the banks (US and foreign), but don’t want American young people to get a well rounded education. It’s not the unions, it’s the FED!

If they were spoiled brats, wouldn’t they be going somewhere other than UC Davis?

Yes, but bending over for beer money is not a job, you republiturd

Chris that depends on the agreement between the employer and employee. I ran into that one time and I got my money because the employer wanted to only read the lines of the agreement that benefited them we both signed.

I am not really sure what the agreement that was signed between the school and student, and there was on signed or said students would not be athletes at this university. Don’t get me wrong, i do agree with you guys to some degree, but there was some paperwork signed and this has to be reviewed. Don’t forget the said students forgone other opportunities to play for said school.

Like I said the California system wanted to open the schools up to thousand illegals that have no right to the break, so what is wrong with them fulfilling there current and real obligations?

Some of you arguing that sports programs in schools need to be eliminated need to have your brain examined. I’m all for limited government, and people paying their own way without relying on government handouts…but, do you think all scholarships come from the government? Do you realize that athletic programs generate a lot of revenue for a school? I don’t blame the student-athletes for being ticked at having their programs cut. They chose to go to school there, probably, because that’s where they wanted to compete. If they had known the program would be eliminated they would have gone somewhere else. And you are completely ignoring the issue they are bringing up; that the administration is spending money on non-necessities when it could be used to help fund their programs.

I’m assuming any of you who think athletics should be eliminated from school’s never played sports. I am/was an athlete. I have a Masters Degree, and I work a good job providing for my family. The lessons I learned playing sports carry over to my every day life. I know that I can push myself beyond the boundaries that most people stay within. When times are tough, I put my head down and push through it ignoring the pain. I am assuming most of you call yourself ‘conservative’, or ‘libertarian’, or, heck, even ‘min-archists or anarchists’. It would be a shame if hate and vitriol is what fuels you through this important time in our country, and not character and the ability to withstand adversity. I want a steady hand on the plow; not some crybaby who is fueled entirely by emotions. Maybe some of you need to go for a job.

A poor liberal dingbat mind, the kind of mind that never matures past the level of a Jr. High drama queen.

The liberal way–someone else will pay!

I don’t know about California, but every scholie I ever received WAS conditional and WAS by the year. I can see honoring the current year, but then it’s good-bye. People are going to have to start understanding that “contracts” with a gubment that is broke can NOT be honored. WHY?? It’s because the TAX PAYERS are the employer and they can fire anyone at anytime. It’s pretty clear that higher education has been failing America for many decades now.

Ok Morons They DO NOT lose their scholarships because they remove the program. The UC system is and has to honor the commitment they made to the students. They just cut the program that is costing them money. Sports are a perk not a right. I enjoy sports immensely. However, education is absolutely the most important concept. Now start charging illegals out of state tuition and the ship will be more than righted

Typical liberal response, dale! Your mommy should be proud of you!

how upper crust of you Michelle – must be a rich liberal

As the parent of a student athlete is can see the issue from both sides. I firmly believe that athletics is extracurricular which means education first. If parents want their child to play sports they should foot that bill while everyone pays for the education. I find it deplorable that high schools now have stadiums, turf fields and weigh rooms that rival anything that you would find at a university and seniors on fixed incomes are asked to help pay for it. How many of you divert money from the food budget to pay the cable television bill?

A few varsity athletes aren’t stopping the youth obesity explosion, have you not been paying attention?? Besides, what’s the big deal any way?? The young fatties won’t have to physically work for a living, they think they will get free healff care, and the gubment (tax payers) has a “contract” that buys them their yummy food.

And let me clarify one point…if the money isn’t there for the sports program then, unfortunately, it should be cut.

But these athletes may have a legitimate beef with the administration. Is it really that hard to believe that a bureaucracy is wasting money on garbage that they can do without? Are you saying new carpet and furniture (and what not) is more important than their program? I just feel like a bunch of, former, pimple-faced dweebs are foaming at the mouth for the chance to rail against the ‘evil’ athlete. Get a grip. Let’s see how the school is spending their money before justifying any program getting cut.

way to argue both ends you dolt – too clever for your education I’d wager

ya because school is the only place they can get exercise – it certainly has to be provided by the Government in some fashion – how about a little critical thinking on your part you ASSumptionhole.

dday, You forgot to include the brain dead morons the universities are drooling over to represent them on some of the athletic fields. Accept anyone and like Stanford we can steer them to the right courses. Truly a shame across the country.

You can have your sports programs or affirmative action (polishing turds). Not both.

Same goes for America’s space program apparently.

The governor already said some sports programs will be cut from colleges. What program will be the first to go? the one’s that don’t make any money and operate on funding from the state budget. Actually, the only sport in college that makes money is football. Some sports programs actually are funded by the football revenue at major universities unlike UC Davis small football program. The UC Davis football program revenues can not pay for men’s swimming and diving, wrestling, indoor track and field, and women’s rowing . Some colleges have already cut their baseball programs let alone swimming and track & field.

Love the fact that you were named after a toilet. Probably one in a Dem headquarters!

Not only spoiled brats but also a bunch of whiney whimps sucking the gov’t teat bone dry.

Normally, an athletic scholarship is a year-to-year contract.

The athletes are CORRECT. The administration at UCD handled this completely WRONG. Anybody that takes a SERIOUS look at the money being spent at UCD could easily have found a much easier way to save the amount of money involved here, without disrupting the lives and athletic careers of these students. Badly done, BRING BACK THESE SPORTS PROGRAMS!!!

Nancy – Are you kidding – playing sports is exactly business and life, you learn to win by working as a team and lose when you do not…..you must be from the new everyone wins mentality that teaches kids they win no matter what, everyone gets a throphy stupid and then they grow up tramatized when they lose……..its a well rounded education that works best, those not playing sports rally behind their school long after they leave and that Nancy is called contributing alumni……what an idiot

You are FREE to go to a school that offers sports. The University of Oregon is nice.

It’s time the books were opened to the public, in a form we can read, showing where our money for education goes. There are no specifics in this article. If sports are supported by alumni and advertisers, fine. If our tax dollars and tuition are going there, then not so fine. I went to college to get an education. Things have really gotten out of hand even to the point where universities seem to be farm teams for the NFL and NBA.

John, what sport other than football generates revenue? Some Sports can draw some revenue but not enough to pay for it all. When the sport becomes a burden on the school financially, it should be cut.

Bravo Jeff!……its the everyone gets a thropy, no keeping score because everyone wins mentality ……… and its now in play come to roust

What has any of this to do with education??? Grow up.

the students dont set school policies or curiculum…..if they dont like it,,,transfer out

Phil – spoken as a true nerd………Its called alumni……they contribute greatly to the little sports

Paul you clearly disconnect when it comes to understanding the importance of sports programs, at all levels. If you bothered to learn the details regarding the particular actions taken at UCD you would come to the same conclusion as I have, the way this was done was WRONG. These student athletes deserved better, these programs were not given any chance at all to self-fund, offset via fundraisers, etc., kind of reminds me how Obama Care was eventually passed, but then you probably like that too….

You must be joking. To imply the lessons learned by athletic activities is somehow contrary to education is laughable. Beyond the physiological and mental benefits of exercise, the lessons on teamwork, fair play, and sportsmanship would be welcome in this day an hour on wall street. How bout you grow up? Or better yet, wake up…

If you want to file a lawsuit for financial mismanagement, you really need to sue all state legislators – you know the ones that decide where the money goes. There is no need to have tax dollars that show people HOW to collect unemployment or how to manage art programs. http://www.ebudget.ca.gov/StateAgencyBudgets/8000/8260/department.html

killerbee32-I know these kids. Not spoiled brats. On the contrary, some of the finest individuals you could ever meet, and very accomplished as well. Might help you to do some research so you understand the quality of some of these programs, just for giggles why don’t you take a close look at the UCD Wrestling program, their record of success and accomplishments, then tell me these are spoiled brats. In wrestling you become a champion because you are the BEST, you are the BEST because you work your A** off non-stop and sacrifice at every level, get a clue before you post your trash.

Title IX along with the rest of the stuff you feminized sheep just take will assist in ending freedom as you knew it (notice how 3 men sports were canceled). Enjoy it, love it, embrace it you ignorant sheep…

LOL, apparently not enough money rickster. Talk about nerds, what kind of name is rickster nerd boy. I know your hurt by cutting these lame little sport that nerds participate in. Sorry about the indoor track and field but rowing? get a grip nerd.

Please No…………………. U of O is liberal enough without an influx of UCD students.

HEY, CHILDREN,

You love Liberal colleges, so take it and shut up the complaining. You libs always complain when the money stealing hurts you personally, but you never complain when they steal from the taxpayers to give to you.

ATHLETICS? IT IS A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS–JUST PAY FOR IT YOURSELVES

Don’t you know it’s ALL ABOUT THE PENSIONS for the staff and administration? NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. They are all hogs in a trough.

http://www.pensiontsunami.com/

$4,000 is the typical cost for ANNUAL renovations, per office I presume. Astonishing!

That’s just how we roll @ http://www.Indoctrinate-U.com

communism always ends up with the same results–shortages and misery.

Reap and sew fools.

Amen Kevin. Title IX was the worse thing to ever happen to men’s collegian sports. Amazing how no one cares that men lost opportunities at the expense of introducing women sports. Each sport should have to fund itself. If women’s basketball, volleyball, etc. can survive on their own, they should be cut.

So in order for some kid to continue to play a sport and go to school, the tax burden must be increased? Makes sense to me…

Athletes are usually more conservative than other students. Liberals think everything should just be given to them. Athletes know the value of working for something.

I have been in my office at work since 1989, and I am sure I have not spent $4,000 in all that time for office renovation. These elites in our colleges have no clue.

I’d say change schools, but these kids are probably there on scholarships, and can’t get the same deal at another school.

Sue away. Most of you don’t even belong in college.

Nice, Forget education and keep thinking of sports. I am sure a warm-up suit would do just fine in a n office.. GROW UP

At what point did these students come to feel that they were entitled to these programs? Are they there to get an education, or are they there to participate in sports?

I’ve read the Mission Statement for UC Davis. Guess what? “Training athletes” is not one of their primary goals.

Go back to class, kids. try to learn something.

I have just finished reading all of the preceeding comments and find the majority reassuring. A tax paying Grandpa

Stephanie W(regardless of her actual age) is emblematic of so many out-of-touch, fiducially underwritten, over-affluent, full of themselves youth, of America who have no idea or appreciation of where money comes from.

it’s not sufficient to respond that the office renovation costs are “typical”, as if that makes it OK. The point is that it shows that administration is not willing to share the load of budget hardship, or to “do without”, even temporarily. All this, while with a stroke of a pen, also forcing dozens of those who they supposedly server have to do without funds that were once used to lure them there in the first place.

If they have’n't learned those by now they wan’t..

I wish I had $4,000 to renovate anything.

You can have a perfectly legitimate education without athletics. The lessons are not contrary, but they are also not necessary. In fact, college athletics tend to be so exclusive that most students are not participating in varsity level activities. State schools shouldn’t be dumping money down an athletic hole and should, instead, direct the funds to rigorous academics.

Greedy teachers and administrators taking all the funds, yet another violation of our rights. Add it to the list of gov’t violations of our right:
They violate the 1st Amendment by placing protesters in cages, banning books like “America Deceived II” and censoring the internet.
They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns.
They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by molesting airline passengers.
They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars for foreign countries.
Impeach Obama and sweep out the Congress.
(Last link of Banned Book):
http://www.iuniverse.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000190526

Note that the atheletes affected by dropped sport programs aren’t just men, they are predominately white men. Programs with high percentages of “people of color” are protected. Further, since football and basketball–dominated by African-Amercians–are the only sports making money (either by direct revenues or alumni donations) women’s sports are being funded through the sweat and toil of young black men. Young black men who have a much lower likelyhood of graduating than the predominately white women student athetes they are supporting.

Don’t believe it? The number of football and basketball games per season is up substantially and March madness now extends into April. Pressure mounts to install a football play-off system which would add 3 to 4 more games for these already overworked top black athletes.

In fixing the women collegiate sports ‘problem’, Congress has created a new plantation where poor young black men work like slaves to satisfy their middle-class white female mistresses.

I like CAPITALIZING some of the words in my SENTENCES.

All of the lessons you cite can be learned at home, one the play ground, in the classroom, and experienced with guidance of elders. There does not need to be a comprehensive athletic program at any university for the students to become well adjusted and successful.

The fact is that most of the collegiate sports programs achieve very little in terms of contribution to society. They do have entertainment value and do teach some life lessons. But the fact that most of the programs run enormous deficits and are subsidized by the taxpayer makes their existence suspect. Maybe, just maybe a little more science and a bit less swimming will result in a net gain in society.

This is kind of sad. Sports like wrestling, swimming, and track and field are relatively cheap sports to support, yet the most expensive sport, football is retained. The sports that were cut are also sports that have potential to be lifelong sports for those who choose. I would love to see football and basketball and their coddled non-scholarly participants suffer budget cuts for once.

So let me get this straight, some programs are cut because the University doesn’t have the funds. Students go and sue that University, causing them to lose more money defending a lawsuit. So more then likely these kids will cost even more kids the opportunity to play their sports. Sounds kinda selfish and liberal to me.

Nevermind par for the course.

Actually Football and Basketball are the only ones that make money, so ya they should be retained. Those programs pay for most of the other programs. Cut those two and you probably lose the entire athletics program.

Cut public hacks pension costs!

Sorry Pteranodon

I didn’t realize black athletes where taken from their homes in the middle of the night. Then sold on some athletic market to universities where they are forced into hard labor for 16 hours a day, to support their white mistresses.

What a truly horrible situation, I just wish they had some choice in the matter or some other options in life…..

That is an option, of course you would have to take on some powerful liberal political stances, soooo thats not going to happen.

Probably when they got a letter in highschool offering them a chance to compete at a college level if they attend this college. Now if they didnt get those letters/promises prior to their decision to attend the college then I agree.

I’m definitely not a liberal. And, i’m always against frivolous lawsuits. But, I don’t see this one as frivolous. Those students came to the university for at least a few reasons, one of them, I would bet, being the sports programs offered. To cut them while they are in school, when they are paying tuition to get an education AND participate in specific sports, makes me believe the school broke their contract to the students.

WHen these kinds of changes are enacted, there has to be appropriate notice– maybe even an entire year or two, because the students need to be able to have the opportunity to transfer to a different university and have all their credits transfer. Usually, a school will only take two years of credits, making the student take two years of credits at their school, too. Another option for the school would have been to join forces with another college or university and share expenses. Did the school look into that option?

Although the football team brings more money to the school than the swimming and rowing teams, I also agree that keeping football while slashing these other sports is regrettable. These kinds of sports ARE lifelong while the likelihood of football being lifelong is minimal.

Football and Basketball programs consume substantial parts of any college program, despite the claims they pay for themselves. Even with revenues from the sports media, however, most of the money stays with the sports departments. One of my cousin’s sons-in-law worked for a major university whose team went to the Orange Bowl. School did not make a dime on the event. All the school gets is the publicity, which does help with donors. The major sports are useful ornaments. They even deform the service academies, however. Many appointments go to athletes attending prep schools to prepare them for the academic and other rigors of the academies. The college programs are part of a huge, multi-billion dollar industry.

Am I missing somthing – annual renovation, in what world are offices renovated every year?

Yet they keep useless, YES I SAID USELESS programs like “gender studies” ….

Typical government upside down thinking. Give the coaches and administrators new furniture and carpet while you gut the programs they are supposed to run. Then they sit in their nice new offices and have 40 hours a week to justify their job since they don’t have any work to do.

Nice. If you can get on the gravy train. Kind of tough on the student athletes and taxpayers though.

It is always those in power that get to spend on their whims, office furniture, carpets, while those not in power get to look on and wonder what is happening.

Bet the comment was that the costs were minimal. But those minimal costs eventually add up.

As to football and basketball. At major schools, football is the engine that pulls all the other teams along. At some schools, basketball does that. So if you kill the engine, all sports are in problems.

But we might really be asking why we, the taxpayers, are funding so many sports programs for such a small minority of students. I believe at major schools with student enrollments in excell of 25,000, you might find some 600 scholarship athletes. Very small percentage.

No one owes you guys a free pass or a “scholarship” based on throwing a ball.
Learn something more substantial than how to pass the ball.

Oh, this is SO TRUE!

This is true. Matter of fact, Football and Basketball help pay for the other sports. The true money drain is Baseball, and USC cut their program, after being NCAA champions.

What the univiersity does owe these student-athletes is the chance to graduate with their diplomas, or the chance to transfer with no loss either academically or athletically. Other than that, squeezing blood from a turnip can be a fruitless task (no pun intended).

WELCOME TO TITLE 9. A FLAWED AND BIASED RULE. ALL COLLEGE SPORTS SHOULD BE RUN ON PROFIT MARGIN. IN THER WORDS THEY PAY THEIR OWN WAY. FOOTBALL AND BASKETBALL FUNDS IT SELF. WHILE MINOR SPORTS THAT FEW WATCH OR ASPIRE LIKE A HOOVER SUCK FUNDS OUT OF THESE TO FUND THOSE PROGRAMS. HENCE TITLE 9 BEIND A SEXUALLY BIASED LAW HAS CAUSED MOST OF THE PROBLEMS. AS LESSER MONEY COMES IN MORE PROGRAMS WILL BE CUT. WELCOME TO THE NEW AGE OF POLITICAL BIAS LIKE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!

Universities don’t have giant slush funds of fungible money. It’s highly unlikely that capital improvements and athletic programs draw from the same pot.

For example, the university likely made a budget the previous year taking into account academic programs, capital improvements, and athletic programs. Maybe a big sports donor pulled out, or the athletic programs were big money losers. They can’t just take money out that they’ve previously budgeted for capital improvements and stop all their projects because there was a huge unforeseen shortfall in the sports funds.

Also, $4K is enough to run, what, a competitive rock/paper/scissors team?

So, since you refused to read past the word obesity in my post and just started name calling. How would it make education better by cutting out atheltics from higher education? Please post examples on how that has worked out in other education systems.

Anyone that thinks sports is an important endeavor is a degenerate.

It’s a game that adults pretend to be children. I don’t want to pay for it and through taxes it’s taken at force just the same way the incompetents, the teachers, are paid. — http://911essentials.com

The most financially successful school in the country is the University of Phoenix. How many sports teams do they have?
Bupkus

It’s a shame, and this happens not only at the college level, but at every level around the country. Instead of trimming budgets in a common sense manner, the unions demand that their needs are met, as well as certain pet projects (the LGBT programs certainly won’t be touched at any of these liberal run schools), at the expense of what’s best for the students.

Sports have value, certainly more value than the extra aide that the unions demand to have for making coffee. God forbid they dirty their hands with coffee grains…or checking papers…or miss out on their various seminars in vacation spots around the globe…

Who says you need college sports anyways. If anything, they should be club teams where the athletes pay expenses. Who really cares about these teams anyways. Those administrators are disgusting too, why new furniture? Its sports at UC Davis!!! No one cares only the ones involved do. Get a metal table, it will last a centurie. In this day and age, if it isn’t helping the bottom line, get rid of it.

They have a stadium!

Yuo – they need to grow up! Sports programs are not needed in order to get a good education. cut them all.

I agree! If you can’t fund yourself then pay dues or hold bake sales. Stop crying and expecting everyone else to pay your way.

Liberal teaching coming home to roost?

The reason they probably chose that school was for the sports program, but let me guess you never played sports at any level chicee

You might be an idiot – I’m sorry you are one

Your entire life is more worthless than gender studies. Your birth was a mistake.

I agree. And what about making them club sports or giving the teams the opportunity to raise funds to keep the sports going.?

This is sooooooo funny. Liberals talking about cutting money. You liberals on this comment page are hilarious. You make fools of yourselves. ROTFLMAO!!

If I had a valid retort, I would likely type it here. Since I don’t ill say your birth was a mistake.
:facepalm:

LOL, oh yeah.. damn those women’s rights. Damn affirmative action, I hate racial equality. You need to crawl under a rock and die.

Separation of government and edcuation.
Start by making all funding for sports, PE, etc. voluntary!

Yes you can buy your degree there… not earn it. What is your point?

Please get your facts straight. Cal is dropping baseball at the end of this season. USC still has its program.

The fact that they have a rule to artificially make cuts in specific programs in order to keep everything “equal” (Title IV), like affirmative action for almost anything else, isn’t equal.

On another angle (that is admitedly a bit mutually exclusive from the above statement), this is just like Music and Art programs in elementary school. They are the foundation of creativity and balance out the 1′s and 0′s of most other subjects. Don’t get me wrong, I was a science person, But I see the need for other subjects, one of the reasons I went to a liberal arts school.

Sports are the same way, if we only support basketball and football (the 2 sports prominently cited in the above article) because ticket sales and donations are the only deciding factor, then why is swimming the number one most watched and highest demand olympic sport worldwide AND for americans? I guess nobody cares until Michael Phelps starts touching out a Croatian in the 100 fly. I guess that justifies us having to buy our own meet suits and warmups but the Football team got 3 sets for each player (I use the term loosely as many never have any actual game time)..EACH YEAR.

-Former College Swimmer from a Division I school.

It’s simple economics, no school with our size Athletic Budgets funds 27 sports. In the days of DII and non-scholarship athletis this worked. However, it’s simply not sustianable. If our AD had any balls and really wanted to see UC Davis on ESPN, we should have cut even more sports to be more akin to schools like UCI, UCSB, or hell even USC.

Cal, with 3 times the department budget, decided to axe men’s baseball and other sports. UC Davis isn’t even close to Cal in terms of revenue or athletic prestige. Stop wasting our time and money, you got a full ride to attend Davis, go ahead and transfer or swim laps on the weekends.

M

wonder if it has anything to do with prop 9 and the article failed to mention it

What is the value of the Aggie women’s basketball team being a part of the NCAA Div. I Tournament facing the #2 team in the country Stanford which should be on ESPN? Media exposure plus the money share out of the tournament helps all on campus. Not everybody knows that UCD has one of the best programs in the country for horses. Even better than the Univ. of Kentucky. Sports = unpaid publicity.

Tghey don’t have the F&^#ING money!!! HELLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOO! What don’t you get???

They got to retain their promised scholarships for their academic career and were offered chances to transfer. This is a non-story about budget cuts that needed to be made at the fiscally cash strapped UC.

And don’t worry angry tea-party people, non of the scholarship money for UC Davis Athletics is from your tax money. Get a life, this has nothing to do about being liberal or conservative.

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I know the underwater chess players are totally devastated that their funds have been cut – why not cut American History instead – no wait a minute that has been gone since the 60 – how about California History – no that was cut because it was too racist – you get the picture.

Ok, So lets not discuss that NOW has effectively enabled the victimization of women for years, has caused the degradation of education to males through the modification of education to a form that is now tailored to girls AT THE EXPENSE of boys, and has virtually immasculated men to the point that “MetroSexual” is actually a compliment.

Lets instead looks at the original point. Mens sports Make money to a far greater degree than womens. Cutting a potentially profitable Mens sport in order to keep an unprofitable womens sport is actually doing more harm in the long run, since now those athletes, who might not have been able to afford an education otherwise and are on scholarship, now are stuck leaving school and potentially falling prey to poverty.

If this is too much of a stretch, lets look at it from a constitutional standpoint. What right does the federal government have to determine the sports program of a state run school, based on the Tenth ammendment of th econstitution. where is “interstate Commerce” in the whole scheme of college athletics, as interstate commerce was originally defined in the constitution and described in the Federalist papers?

If a school can attract women athletes by providing sports thats Great and a competitive advantage for that school. However, forcing additional athletics to be shutdown because you must provide for equality in athletics programs, no matter if they pay for themselves or not, is ridiculous.

At some point original intent and basic logic must come into play. That is unless liberal politics are involved.

WOMEN SPORTS PROGRAMS ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A FREE EDUCATION FOR ATHLETES AND A MONEY LOSER FOR THE INSTITUTION. WOMEN SPORTS ARE NOT SUPPORTED IN THE REAL WORLD AS THEY CANNOT COMPETE AGAINST MENS-THE BEST WOMEN ATHELETES IN ANY SPORT WOULD NOT EVEN MAKE THE TEAM IN THE SAME MENS SPORTS!

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RIght…I’m because I believe in fiscal responsibility, and approve of athletics. I am definitely cut from the Democrat cloth, right? How did you even draw that conclusion from my post?

Unfortunately, dead brain idiots like you are the singled out by liberals and held up as examples for the conservative movement. Wake up, stop being a cheerleader for one side of an aisle, and analyze and act on information ON YOUR OWN!

we used to be a nation of ( we earn our way) now we are a nations of( i will sue you) we don’t need more bronze running our country we need more brains

TXdfw-Spoken like someone who never played sports, or couldn’t keep up after the age of 7. Learning these lessons at home is not the same, and is near impossible. I would have never learned how to push through the barriers of adversity without my time on an athletic field. It can’t compare to anything else…testing your physical self requires a dedicated mind to get you through it.

However, I will agree with you that more science and less sports would benefit our country. Keep in mind that I am a life long athlete…I love athletics immensely (obviously). However, my father, a Big 10 football and baseball player, pushed us to excel in the classroom as much as sports. I plan on teaching my 8 month old son that he needs to have AT LEAST an equal passion for school as he does for sports…and I dream about throwing a baseball around with my kid. The problem is all these idiot parents who think there seven year old needs to be on a traveling baseball team year round and believe they’re going to be major leaguers. I will guarantee that my father was more intense that most parent’s in terms of pushing us in sports, but he would never do it for the purpose of trying to get us into pro sports. He just wanted us to give 110% at all times so we never had to look back and wonder what could have been. And he applied this to our studies as well. That’s how it should be. However, too many parents ignore the studies. Sad.

sheilaL, seriously? You really are a loser. Will you tell your daughter one day that she’s not as good as a man? Your logic is incorrect and you have no proof. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Mens sports are expendable, because they are men. But these wimpy college students will vote democrat because they think they are saving the planet or something.

Kate, he speaks the truth. Although there are a few exceptions, like tennis and volleyball, womens sports at all levels, are a money loser. Don’t get mad, just know the truth.

Correction: They bought a name on a stadium…sorry. Best of luck with that UoPhx diploma post grad…

Thank you Andy for speaking the truth. Spoiled Brats they are not. Look at all the NCAA Sholar athletes, Academic All Americans, Major Corporation Scholarship Winners (self-less plug, I was one), and Sears Cup trophies UCD has won over the years for having the best GPA’s (consequently much higher than the general student population at UCD) combined with the athletic success very few programs have come close to. These students were sold a bill of goods that was not delivered ultimately. Grounds, breach of contract.

Go Ags!

Any activity that does not bring a return on investment should not exist. Let all such activities be intramural, or let those who desire to participate pay for them. Certainly there are alumni who could sponsor scholarships.
The only reason some female activities, in particular, exist is because the national government decreed this unfunded mandate.

I don’t understand America today. We have states poised on the brink of bankruptcy and students are suing because a university can’t afford their sports program. That makes a lot of sense! Take a university that has to make cuts to meet the reality of their current financial situation and make them spend thousands (or millions) of dollars responding to lawsuits filed by “students” who feel entitled to something more than an education.

Almost all sports are money losers at universities. At most universities, football and/or basketball programs are the only ones that bring in revenue.

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Poor little panty waist students who are used to getting everything they want without putting anything into it (not being taxpayers). Why don’t these free loaders go out and get a job and then they will understand why the taxpayers are mad as heck over being taxed to much to pay for these panty waist college programs.

Especially students who are freeloading…”student” athletes get the best of everything at the cost of nothing. Of course they will be our future used car salesmen, so perhaps we should be kind.

If the administration would cut back size, pensions, and pay, perhaps sports would stand a chance. Too many people on the take and not enough going into the cause. This is probably more educational (real world stuff) than they will ever learn from a liberal professor. Good Luck California, you are going to need it after that last election!

When the rule is applied to give ANY group an advantage (for whatever the reason) its not equal anymore..

Swing and a miss.

Until they spend a very large portion of that “revenue” on marketing, admin salaries and new stadiums that weren’t needed yet

I’m not against this, as its already the case for most swimming and diving teams.

400lb guys aren’t “athletes” as much as the NFL tries to convince me.

you know its spelled waste right?

I guess I see why you’re so mad about people having secondary education…

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