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SACRAMENTO (CBS13) – A local mom was arrested on criminal charges after police say she left her two young children out in the cold as she apparently ate a warm meal in a warm place.

Those children, just 4-years-old and 10-years-old, were rescued thanks to a 9-1-1 call from a stranger. We spoke to the man tonight.

“It was hard for me to sleep last night, because I was tossing and turning thinking about the kids,” said David Hernandez.

David can’t get out of his head.

“As a father it was really sad; really disturbing,” said David.

It was last night when David was walking to a local McDonalds when he caught sight of two small kids in the bushes next to a nearby motel. Thinking little of it, he went and ate, but when he got back, nearly a half-hour later, he peered through the fence and realized the children were still there and in trouble.

“Huddled up real close together, teeth chattering just totally freezing,” said David.

The kids were huddling together and clinging to each other for warmth. The temperature outside was in the low 40′s.

“This was on their lap. It’s somebody’s jacket,” said David.

David knew he had to help. He called cops who quickly responded and got the children into a warm patrol car. Officers eventually able to locate the kids mom, Farris Martin. They say Farris was drunk at the very McDonalds David had just left.

“I was just really happy and relieved when the police called me back up and told me that the kids were okay,” said David.

Thanks in a huge part to David. It’s still unclear as to why Farris, who claims to be homeless, would not bring her children with her into the warm restaurant. David says he too is homeless and say it’s not a reason for what he saw.

“Just because someone is down, that’s not excuse to treat your kids that way or bring your condition down on them,” said David.

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  • St. Peter

    ALL HALE DAVID!!! Hero to two kids who were freezing. I salute you sir.

  • Gayle

    Glad you were there David to save the kids from a bad situation

  • oeoei

    The mother must have pimped by somebody and got her drunk. There are people, many of them are African Americans, target, prey, and strategically pimp, use force, and lure women into prostitution or sex. Not saying other races are not doing that. But from my observation and seen,these people tend to hang around hotel, street control, dark parking lot, and to lure girl, drug them, follow them and threaten them if they don’t follow.

    I hope cop would shut these people to death, period

  • Darren Wilkens

    I hope the kids are in better hands. As for the mom, burning in hell wouldn’t be a good enough punishment

  • 1 more Star on your Crown.

    Someone give David a Job and a Roof over his head….

    He deserves it…

    WTG David.

  • HH

    Yes, how do we get in touch with David and send a big thank you his way?

  • CAFFE-Feeding clothing the homeless twice a month at Cesar Chavez Park

    God had David just where he was needed this night. I have met David several times and he is truly a most wonderful person.
    Just so thankful that it was David and not some predator that came upon these children.
    Yes we need to find David, his partner and awesome dog a home to live in just as we do all of the other homeless people in our area. If not a house, some shelter to keep them out of these elements year round in our area.
    It is so sad to see the many homeless in our community yet most will turn their heads and are so unaware of what these people endure.
    I was so praying yesterday and talking with my daughter and telling her I was hoping the 2 men and their dog found deceased in a tent were not David and his partner and dog-then last night watching the news, here David is after saving these 2 children!!

  • Wilbur Post

    California should use this in their next tourism ad.

  • Josh Swaringen

    Please proofread. “he too is homeless and say it’s not a reason”. Also, “Officers eventually able to locate the kids”

  • Glenn from Drudge

    I wonder if this mom is the same lady who was bartering sexual favors for chicken McNuggets in yesterday’s news.

    McDonald’s has a hold on people.

  • sgtawesome

    EDIT: “the kid’s mother” not “his”.

  • G

    McDrunk

  • JMHO55

    I’m glad he finally called the police, but should have done so when he first saw the children 45 minutes earlier. Who knows what could have happened in those 45 minutes — especially if someone not as nice as David came along.

    I’m glad the children are in a safer environment. Thank you, David, for making that call.

  • Rupert Pupkin

    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?

    Evil came from Adam, who brought sin into the world.

    Think about it (I know you won’t, but try anyway)

  • Jim Bihary

    God is willing and able – he is omnipotent
    God is able and willing, he gave YOU the ability to prevent evil – he is loving
    God is both able and willing, by giving YOU the ability to produce or prevent evil. Whence does it come? From YOU.
    Is he neither able or will. Just went over that.

    I did think about it, now time for you to do the same.

  • Compassionaire

    sgtawesome – Get your head out of your hate. “People” do bad things – God gives us a measure by which to understand the truth, which is His love.

  • Joseph Kim

    You do not understand the legal issues at play in the Great Controversy. God cannot force you to to good. He must allow your freedom of choice to manifest itself, for good or ill.

    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
    Wrong. God does prevent evil, but people are legally entitled to make evil choices with evil consequences. Being all powerful does not mean that God is your magic genie.

  • Idiocracy

    “Carl’s Junior has determined that you are an unfit mother. Your children will be place in the custody of Carl’s Junior. Thank you. Have a nice day.”

  • Mitt

    Why were the kids seated out there instead of inside the warm McDonald’s? I want the rest of the story so I can make an informed conclusion. I feel like this is only part of the story.

  • Neli

    Hello sgtawesome, as long as people do not accept the reality of reincarnation, and karma (that you are responsible for your own actions), then they must come to the same conclusions you have come to. In other words, to deny the role of reincarnation, and how we sow what we reap, is the root of atheism. God is able, but we have free will. Free will to do choose between right and wrong. God does not intervene with these choices because He respects our right to choose. He is not a fanatic who forces Himself upon others. Though capable, He does not just zap everyone so that we all love Him and live perfect lives, because if the choice to do what is right were not voluntary, then it would be of no value. It takes a bit of work and effort on the part of every individual to come to that level of love for God and all His children.

  • jerrykregle

    some people should have NO reproductive rights

  • Tony

    Was the mother an “Occupy” protester perhaps?

  • K.T.

    Your concept of God is no different than most Christians or Muslims or Jews even though you obviously don’t ‘believe’. Thats fine. But try moving out of the paradigm of “God is this’ or ‘God is that’ – God just is. God is fully capable of answering your questions and concerns – but finds no need. I know I sound cryptic – I don’t mean to. Try studying some Eastern Philosophy – The Rosicrucian Society (AMORC) would be an excellent start.
    Life just is. Just like God ‘just is’. Get used to it.

  • Dave

    Good thing David wasn’t on the Penn State football staff, those poor little girls would still be out in the cold while he tried to figure out what he should do. Thank God some people do know what’s right.

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  • Nathan

    Those who say that God is only in good actions do not understand the bible. Perhaps their preachers have told them that God is simply an old man up in the clouds who sits in a chair and watches the earth spin. But that is not the God written about in the bible. God says that He works all things after the pleasure of His good will. He does as He pleases with anything and anyone. The problem is with the idea that our value of “good” and God’s value of “good” are the same. The bible says that we cannot understand God’s ways by our natural selves. His ways are not our ways. God’s idea of good is not natural man’s idea of good. “Good” for God was to destroy every living thing with a flood, but I’m sure that those who died did not agree that it was good. As to your argument, God is omnipotent and rules as an absolute, sovereign king. Just because we believe an event is “bad” doesn’t change the fact that God saw that it was good to do it. And it is not our place to question it. “But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, ‘Why have you made me like this?’” (Rom. 9:20)

  • WASPy

    Caleefornia is gonna continue its demise into bankrupt squalor.

    This is where the Progressive Movement ALWAYS ends up.

    CA = r.i.p.

  • Stanley

    Jungle parenting skills on display.

  • xfiler93

    typical.

  • Portia2708

    I don’t disagree…BUT, why is it that we always criticize the mother…where are the dads and why aren’t they involved and held accountable…where is the GOP on this issue

  • Hawkdriver1961

    She was only following Michelle Obama’s advice in that she must place herself first, before anyone else, in order to get through the day…..How else could this woman take care of her two kids, if she doesn’t make herself the #1 priority first?

  • Nathan

    Your preacher has not told you correctly. Nowhere in the bible does it say that man has freewill, least of all when it comes to his salvation. I don’t know when this falsehood started, but it’s quite prevalent and woefully easily accepted. The bible says that we are all born spiritually dead. But how can a dead man call out? He can’t; but a sovereign God can seek him, find him, and give him a heart of flesh. Just as Jesus went to Lazurus and raised him from the grave, so He must seek and find His elect. God’s purposes will not be confoundedby the likes of us, whether we feel that we have a choice in the matter or not. He will have all the glory, no matter how many He chooses to save. It’s not up to us, and it never was. The agreement was made between Father and Son before time began, as Christ was the “lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” Christ fulfilled all that God required in the Law, and then He ascended to the right hand of the Father, where He constantly makes intercession for His poeple. And if God did choose to save everyone, then everyone will be saved. But we know this to be untrue, for even many in the bible were not saved; they were condemned. Besides that, if we had freewill to either be saved or not be saved, we in our natural selves would never choose God. “There is no one righteous, no not one. No one who understands, no one who seeks God.” There is only one choice for an unregenerated heart, and that’s damnation. But for those to whom God calls and gives them a heart of flesh, there is also only one choice, and that choice is God, all praise, all honor, and all glory.

  • sgtawesome

    You sorely misunderstand Epicurus’ point, my friends:

    If God were omnipotent, he could prevent evil and does not. Are you saying Adam was more powerful than God? If so, then God is not omnipotent.

    Next, if he is omnipotent, then why does he even permit evil? If it is some cruel game to watch people (like those poor children) suffer, then he is malevolent, and not worthy of worship.

    If you believe he is omnipotent, and not malevolent, then where is this evil coming from? Again, by claiming someone other than omnipotent god introduced evil, you are negating omnipotence.

    Lastly, if he can’t prevent evil, then he is not God.

    …and you ALL missed my point, which is the worst part of this: people thank God for putting that nice guy there to help the children, but ignore all of the bad stuff that went into play.

    David Hernandez deserves praise for doing the right thing — God had nothing to do with this! Even you guys said it yourself (with all your inherent contradictions in logic, but I guess we’ll move past that): FREE WILL.

    God didn’t put David there, his free will put himself there. Praise be to free will!!!

    …I didn’t mean to start a religious debate, and for that I apologize. It just baffles me that when people see chance, they praise God, and when they see tragedy, they look the other way. Where’s the accountability?

  • Nathan

    Hmm, this doesn’t show a comment tree. Anyway, my first coment is directed at sgtawesome, and my second comment is directed at Neli and some of the other commenters.

  • Larry Burdge

    The mother is better off in jail and the kids are alot better off without their mother…… You bet. Sad that the taxpayers have to support another freeloader, then again, you must realize that this is California. Anything goes as long as the democrats staty in charge……

  • Santino Vannozzi

    What does the GOP have to do with it? What about the DNC? Why do we need large umbrella organizations to decide for us? Mr. Hernandez did what we should all be doing, and that is our individual part, nothing more, nothing less. People are so paranoid about repercussions that they are paralyzed and incapable of acting when there are those who truly need help. Paranoia about repercussions come from those very umbrella organizations I mentioned earlier. Why do we need them? The difference in philosophy is so minuscule between the two and more middle ground can be found in the fact that all sides just want personal liberty instead of being told “the best way” by the other side. Our founding fathers understood that there would be differences and a way was made to prevent the kind of garbage we see today. Liberal/Conservative is not the problem, DNC/GOP is.

  • Ranger01

    The mother deserves to not have children. Find loving homes for them. There are plenty of people who are wanting to raise children, and not neglect them.

  • alan

    Typical Obama voter only out for herself

  • Melvin

    Is everyone in Sacramento homeless?

  • Tuu

    You are a nut.

  • Indeed_USN

    God gave us free will so that we can be independent thinking beings. Without it, we would be divine puppets at best.

    If God were to intervene directly to correct every wrong, our free will would be destroyed by the intimidation that would result from the overt demonstration of an all powerful omnipotent being.

    If your only companions were to associate with you out of fear, they would be poor company indeed. If your children were to show you affection only because you can obviously throw them out into the night, then their love for you doesn’t actually exist.

    Evil doesn’t thrive because God “allows” it – It exists because WE allow, condone, ignore, or craft it. Evil isn’t the opposite of good. Evil is the perversion of good.

    If I were to build a house for you, fill it with every thing you need, and give it to you to live in, would you think of me with affection if I FORCED you to live in it according to my dictates? No – you would not. I would have to allow you to make your own decisions for there to be any possibility of a genuine affection from you.

    So, here we are, living in this wonderful “home” that has been provided to us, and we are free to treat it as we will. Why would it be God who is to blame if we let it turn into a rat infested slum?

    Perhaps you still blame your parents when your toilet clogs up?

  • Ryan Mouk

    And thus this “Mother of the Year” should be slapped, her kids taken, her house taken, and forced to sleep outside until she realizes what a waste of life she really is.

  • Indeed_USN

    The above was in reply to a comment, by sgtawesome, that seems to have disappeared.

  • Bil

    Ex-wives Club

  • Bernie Bouck

    You can take a deadbeat MOM out of the jungle but . . . . !

  • Kevin

    Her house taken?? Did you miss the part of the article where it said she’s homeless. Try reading the article first, THEN commenting.

  • sgtawesome

    …which ALL goes back to my point: praise Free Will.

    You have all used your own logic (such as it is) to emphasize that man operates of Free Will. Therefore, praise Free Will, not God, for David’s actions that night.

  • For Real?

    So she’s homeless and a drunk, but she sobered up long enough to register to vote and then found a voting booth to vote?

  • 1776

    Sad sad to hear. This world has gone straight to h3ll.

  • TJG

    The GOP are the ones that want the father to be held accountable instead Big Government raising his kids through welfare.

    Glad I could help clear that up for you.

  • no surprises

    Kids are just food stamps and a bigger check to these people.

  • Mike Jones

    A black woman? I am shocked. You so rarely hear about black people robbing, stealing and abusing. Shocked I tell you, absolutely shocked.

  • spellrightthenpost

    You mean “You’re”?

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    SHOCK POLL!

    87% of homeless minorities blame Obama for their economic problems! Wow.

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  • Brrrrack

    ever heard of a joke? Other than our president?

  • Brrrrack

    Ha! Like she registered! Give me a break. That’s not required to vote Democrat in California and most other states controlled by them.

  • be happy

    Adam fell asleep before Eve was created. He never woke up. You think you separated, but it’s an illusion. You judge yourself to be guilty here, but it’s not true. You are the holy child of God and you were never anything else. Everything else you see is your own judgement. If you would believe this without fear, you would save the world. And you will do this, as Jesus promised. It is inevitable.

  • Andrew P.

    and then slapped again

  • Andrew P.

    you’re right. we should taker her cardboard box she sleeps under, and the newspapers she uses for warmth. f that b

  • Brrrrack

    Even you make mistakes? Your question mark should be inside the quotes.

  • unclesam

    Yes she did exactly that.

  • brent carlisle

    Where is the sperm donor, er, I mean, the children’s father?

    These kids would be better off in the care of the state than this drunken, neglectful woman.

  • Crabjuice

    And, the kids won’t get fat, either!
    Vote for Farris as Democrat Mom of the Year.

  • wildbill6996

    CALIFORNIA, this qualifies for “”"”"MOTHER of the YEAR “”"”"”"” !!!!

  • 12-String Infidel

    She didn’t have to find a voting booth, ACORN picked her up and gave her a free bus ride to my polling place. We saw bus after bus of strangers from outside our District at our polling station in 2008.

  • bill clinton i did inhale

    this why all foriegn aid need to stop,we the people come first and any political party or person thinks different go back to the country you left trator

  • carl

    another obama voter blows her GUBBAMINT CHEK on crack instead of food for her kids

  • Kathy

    Poor, poor babies, that’s all.

  • Jack Smith

    She was probably just concerned about the transfats in the Happy Meals. Let’s Move!

  • Artic Slayer

    I think she was sooooo worn out from voting she just lost it and hit the McD’s from being in a state of delirium she just spaced the kids…. Thats ok I have made sooooooooooo much money under the bho admin I will donate all 3 bucks to help her…. oh shishhhhhh I just found out I have to pay 4 buck in taxes for the 3 bucks I make…. damit!!!!

  • FreudianSlip

    What happened to the kids? What is their status today? Why don’t the report on the issue….what have the children received in nurturing help…caring parents, shelter, food, school, clothing, medical care?

    Just wondering if the 4 & 10 year old are back in custody of their Mother and she got more entitlement programs….but the kids parenting and environment hasn’t changed.

  • FreudianSlip

    You can bet the 10 year old has more parenting skills than the Mother.

  • iconico62

    Undoubtedly, y9ou are a Teadiot. Inject Michelle into the scenario because that is what the Teadiot Manual tells you to do. Get back to your dingdongs, idiot.

  • Bob A

    Those kids are only useful to get money from the Democrat’s welfare state i.e. pay immoral women to have kids and create poverty. You don’t have to take care of them! If she is black she will get off.

  • Barry Foodstamp Obama

    It’s the Bushes fault.

  • David Christensen

    It’s horrific. I did not know the race of the so-called mother before I read the story. However, I assumed she is black. When it comes to these kind of stories be it flash mobs, abused children from a female parent, thugs beating someone for a pair of tennis shoes, or beating and robbing old ladies, as usual it involves blacks. Thanks to Barack for his leadership.

  • Gunny G Alz

    No doubt she voted for Obama then and will do so again. Stupid IS as stupid DOES!

  • GregB

    Yes! Free will is necessary to form meaningful love, based upon self-sacrifice. Free will also enables the greatest evils, but the love that free will allows makes the evil bearable. So God respects our free will because love is the secret to happiness, and the reason why He bothered to make us.

  • Forward Observer

    So Nathan, what you’re saying is “action on our part is not relevant”? When did you get saved? Were you born that way or did it happen later in life after some wandering in sin? If action on our part is a non-issue, and you were born saved, then why repent and confess Jesus as the Son of God. If it happened later then factoring in for Jesus’ imminent appearing, when did it happen, when you bowed your head, after you got finished praying or the moment you stepped out? What if Jesus had returned before you finished praying? What I am trying to communicate hear my dear brother is you may be missing the whole point…Jesus came to save sinners and we all fit that bill. And He said “Come unto me all ye that labor and are heavy laden”; this implies action. The fact that He knows the outcome prior to the event does not negate the necessity of the event itself. “How shall they hear without a preacher, and how shall they preach except they be sent”. If God just saves those He chooses, when He chooses, that’s certainly within His right, after all He is God and it’s His universe. But answer me this, why the delay, why didn’t he just call judgment day immediately after Adam sinned? Anything else would be a force of will – which again, He has the right to do, but it doesn’t balance with scripture. Listen, I like David Jeremiah too, but he’s wrong on this hypercalvinist stuff.

  • Robert

    The author of this article really loves hyphens!

  • MadCharles

    She must be running for state office..

  • Whitey Ford

    This is just one more reason to stop 3rd world immigration. California has been reduced to a toilet.

  • tgc

    God permits evil because He gives us free will.
    You say if He permits evil then He is malevolent.
    Doesn’t that mean you too are malevolent?
    Or do you want us to believe you have never seen evil happen, let it happen, or for that matter have never done anything evil yourself?

  • Steve

    The headline says it all.

    Clearly it’s Bush’s Fault.

  • Giggles D Clown

    This is the same woman who was whoring for mcnuggets? And besides who would even want to eat that nastyness? Wendys is better.

  • Jon

    Keep giving out welfare, keep getting negative consequences. It is wrong in society to teach children about morals, faith, etc…, but fine to reward those who pop out kids they can’t afford because they get another gub-ment check in the mail.

  • Steve

    So, more Bushes trying to kill poor kids.

  • HoDown

    They don’t have Bushes at Wendys, just McD’s. It’s so all the former postal workers who now work at McD’s can hide in the Bushes.

  • Treeman

    TNB at it’s finest!

  • Lashawnda

    “Officers eventually able to locate the kids mom”
    “David says he too is homeless and say it’s not a reason for what he saw”.
    “… that’s not excuse to treat your kids that way”

    Who the hell wrote this, and who the hell EDITED it?

  • Hank Hill Jaffe-Hooknose

    McDonald’s —- Where The Illegal Alien Homeless Get Fat To Eat, Courtesy of the American Working Taxpayer.

  • Barbara Tiemeier

    That was a man who was begging for the McNuggets

  • Joe Biden

    Stupid white woman, she should be jailed for life and the kids taken away permanently and sh…what?…huh, she was black? Oh…my, my, my…this poor woman needs federal assistance and somebody white should be jailed for forcing her to live like this.

  • Stan and Laurel

    McDonalds — Today’s moocher soup kitchen. McDonald’s, Food not fit for consumption.

  • Peter Long

    Where are there homeless unwilling to work illegal aliens moochers getting the funds to eat at McWadnad’s?

  • Richard White

    Youth in Asia the 100 million unwilling to work and the 25 million fecceskin ones.

  • yiddishlion

    I have always been curious how homeless people can always manage to buy alcohol and drugs?

  • kelly kafir

    Sorry Bob, it ain’t just the women that are immoral – it takes male sperm to help make those babies – why just blame the woman? The man is equally at fault for not taking care of his responsibilities like a REAL man!

  • Dennis

    And finally! BUSH DID IT!

  • Rene Soden

    Shame on you, Bob A. God don’t like ugly.

  • Wally Hyatt Namer

    demographics please…

  • beelzebub

    I do evil all the time, right now I’m torturing puppies.

  • bs detector

    Look on the bright side – at least she wasn’t feeding them McDonlad’s “food”.

  • Midge Martin
  • TonyTonyTony

    Down and out?
    Do two things; 1) Vote the Democrats out of office. 2) Get the Hell out of California.

  • cooga

    she is an equal oppurtunity eater.

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  • ReRun

    Temperatures in the low 40s isn’t exactly “life threatening” or “freezing to death”. Calm down, take a deep breath, and Get a Grip!

  • John Barnett

    There’s a good chance the mother was Muuchelle Obama, she loves her food.

  • Thomas

    It is life threatening, ever hear of hypotherma? 40 degrees and wet WILL kill you.

  • Boetica

    My thoughts exactly. I pray that the children can overcome the legacy of neglect and brutality that they have known.

  • perseus317

    Temperatures don’t have to get below freezing for a person to die of hypothermia. Anyone who would abandon her children to the cold while getting a warm meal ANYWHERE should be locked up. Anyone who would defend this irresponsible mother’s conduct has to be irresponsible themselves.

  • Boetica

    Men have NO reproductive rights.

  • Boetica

    True dat!

  • never ending fight for freedom

    rerun u a moran

  • Boetica

    What manual? It is “progressive” policies that have created situations like this.

  • Boetica

    No kidding. How old is the mom? Common sense would tell you that you shouldn’t pay children to have children. The idiocracy has created this situation.

  • Boetica

    The unfortunate part is that many of the children have been irreparably psychologically harmed by the time they end up in the foster care system.

  • Boetica

    Guess the ‘Obama stash’ passed her by, or she spent it on booze and crack.

  • Boetica

    Some of the foster homes are just as bad.

  • Boetica

    Yes.

  • Boetica

    That’s what the “progressives” prescribe for situations like this. But you know that.

  • Boetica

    ^5 Kelly.

  • Vera Hamann

    Not yet, but governor is working on it.

  • Boetica

    Bullseye!

  • Boetica

    For a minute there I thought you were Eric Holder………

  • Rufriggin Kiddinme

    You can’t turn tricks with your kids hanging on to your ankles.

  • Boetica

    They would be talking about the “creativity” of black single mothers.

  • Boetica

    Look how well social programs work. Poor kids.

  • TK

    Pretty sure homelessness and trashiness existed before Obama was in office. Idiots.

  • Baby

    Indeed, you are correct BUT wasn’t Obama going to heal us all?

  • Nathan

    Forward Observer: Forgive me if what I wrote earlier was confusing. Salvation becomes difficult to discuss because there is the salvation from God’s point of view, which is outside of time, and then from our point of view. From God’s point of view, I was, am, and will be saved. My actions, ideas, or desires have no bearing on whether or not God has accepted Christ’s work. We, as men, were not consulted when God made His plans, because the deal was made between Father and Son. Christ came down, He lived perfectly, he paid my debt on the cross, and then he ascended into heaven. I had and don’t claim to have anything to add to His work; doing so would reduce His glory, which is something that He will not allow. As for the “when” of my salvation, it’s a non-issue. If God chooses to save a person, that person will be saved. God uses means on earth for this end, such as the preaching of the word. I apologize that I don’t have the scripture references in front of me, but He sends messengers, and the listeners are given a receiving heart to hear His word. And Christ said that no one can come to him unless the Father draws him. My basic point is that the idea that we have an ability to do anything outside of God’s plan is erroneous. No one can stay the hand of a sovereign God. If He wants you, you will be saved, period. If He does not want you, you won’t know the difference. Another thought I’ve had is, why are we, as men, exempt from His will and not other parts of His creation, such as trees, animals, angels or devils? And on the flip side, if a man comes to God, looking for mercy, and he offers him his “decision for Jesus,” what do you think God’s answer will be? He has only two answers: “I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness,” (Matt. 7:23) or “Fear not, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by your name; You are Mine” (Isa. 43:1). We dare not come before God pleading anything except Christ, which is the one thing that He accepts. As for the sarcastic remarks asking why people say that God was in the rescue but not in the preceding events that stuck those two children int he cold: He did both. God provided the ark to protect Noah and all inside while He brought down judgment on everyone else. And you’re right, Christ came to save sinners, and everyone that calls on His name will be saved. But no one can come to Him unless the Father draws that person. If you would like to hear more, you can check out Freegraceradio.com. Don Bell, Bruce Crabtree, Drew Dietz, Joe Terrell and Henry Mahan are all good sources of gospel preaching. I cannot hope to explain everything in a short message board, so please listen to a few of those preachers. If not, that’s fine too.

  • Rose Wilfer

    ttwo littlevkids not big fatcheads. you getca grip prefably on your fingers. cold is not thec only threat these children were subject to, there are perverts out there looking for just this type of situation, those babies were in danger

  • C.Massei

    It amazes me that this has caused such an uproar when there are thousands of homeless children in this state and no one is outraged over their homelessness or that of their families.

  • sharon

    You are an idiot you try sitting outside at night in 40 degree weather then tell us it’s not that bad, you are as stupid as the idiot mother!

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